Thank you Atlantis. I appreciate you doing the research. Those last letters are quite interesting.
Posts by Faded
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276-BOEs-Just Arrived!
by Atlantis in2018-03-31-general data protection regulationhttps://we.tl/z1g1kyveqg2018-04-01-assisting in seldom worked territorieshttps://we.tl/vjspmlzrag2018-announcements and remindershttps://we.tl/hz9omncxib2018-consent for personal datahttps://we.tl/wnlmxqfp7n2018-instructions-for-use-of-personal-datahttps://we.tl/c1ftcszyk22018-oclam-may-7--28--answer sheethttps://we.tl/ieggkojrsyatlantis!.
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Zeb's Memorial Experience
by HiddlesWife ini just saw zeb's ("i'm worldly") video entitled: "black mass mayhem" a few minutes ago.
no doubt this was what he experienced at a memorial he attended last night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xz1eb63iry .
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Faded
Reddit has an interesting thread about the merits of the hall crashing. The poster has a great list of his/her perceived benefits. They say in part
I used to think crashing meetings was pointless. Now I feel it’s a fantastic and courageous act. Here’s why:
It disrupts the so-called “sacredness” of the meeting. That supposed special feeling everyone has? Ruined. Especially at the Memorial. The cultlike trance everyone is in is broken. The so-called “love” and “unity” is being called for what it is, a cult that practices shunning of family members. You can see the absolute shock on people’s faces as they hear about shunning and pedophiles being protected.
The elders are shown as really powerless. Someone stands up at the meeting and starts talking. The elders tell them to stop and they don’t! Where is the Holy Spirit when you need it! Those holier than thou elders can’t do anything except tell them to leave. Ha ha ha! No back room meetings, they can’t use their supposed authority on them. Then when they threaten to cal the police the crasher says, “then why don’t you call the police on pedophiles? This is hugely embarrassing for the elders.
Everyone talks about it later. I read all day today on social media about one of the crashes at the Memorial. That’s all the Witnesses were talking about. Last year so many of our “Facebook friends” in our area were posting photos of the Memorial. But yesterday a crasher spoke up at a local Memorial and today NO ONE from that Hall posted photos. All they are talking about online is how someone disrupted their Memorial.
The young people in the audience may feel empowered. So many young people are on this forum feeing alone and powerless. Their parents lord it over them. Then they suddenly see someone standing up and speaking out! It can be done! Someone can actually stand up to the organization.
Some may actually hear the content of what the crasher is saying and look it up. Witnesses live in a bubble and usually never hear about shunning or the two-Witness rule or the ARC. Suddenly it’s blasted out loud. JWFacts.com as well. Some may look it up, especially those already with doubts.
The #metoo movement and the Parkland shooting survivors are showing that activism is being taken more seriously. This is not thirty years ago. People are speaking up about injustices all over the place.
They are not interrupting to talk about doctrine. They don’t mention 1914, the overlapping generation, 607, none of that. They are talking about shunning family. They are taking about Witness suicides. They are taking about pedophiles in the congregation. It’s absolutely shocking and stunning to watch the faces of the audience in those videos. These are the issues the organization is facing now
The full post can be found at https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/88wb0x/why_i_think_crashing_meetings_is_a_fantastic_idea/
I didn't see much value in hall crashes but these are all good points.
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6-BOEs-Just Arrived!
by Atlantis in2018-03-31-general data protection regulationhttps://we.tl/z1g1kyveqg2018-04-01-assisting in seldom worked territorieshttps://we.tl/vjspmlzrag2018-announcements and remindershttps://we.tl/hz9omncxib2018-consent for personal datahttps://we.tl/wnlmxqfp7n2018-instructions-for-use-of-personal-datahttps://we.tl/c1ftcszyk22018-oclam-may-7--28--answer sheethttps://we.tl/ieggkojrsyatlantis!.
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Faded
Atlantis -
Is there a chance you have letters sent to Body's of Elders to address the hall crashing &/or cart crashing situation. I'm sure they've addressed it. I'd love to know what they say.
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Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!
by pale.emperor ini haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.
a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.
apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?
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Faded
We've all got stories to tell about our years in the org. The unique, wierd, funny, quirky, etc. P.E. just happens to be a better story tell than than a lot of us.
P.E. - please keep going. I love these stories.
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Pillowgate makes headlines in Finland
by Festus inlocal newspaper in finland has published an article concerning wtbs:s "pillowgate@ videos.
the local "communications manager" of jehovah's witnesses - veikko leinonen - has declined to comment them.
according to him they are for internal use only.
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Faded
Unbelievable. In addition to the "the material was for internal use only" response, the spokesperson states that the video is chopped up and edited to misrepresent them. Umm it's chopped up with critic & rebuttal to comply wth copy write laws and avoid having his channel taken down.
Absolute spin doctors.
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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.
by Heathen Dan inthis is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).
first of all, i've left being a jw in june.
since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.
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Hi & Welcome! Many of us feel we know you already through your brother.
We are very happy you've found your way on here and away from the cult.
I know the shunning is going to be hard. And all this talk of suing, losing carers, etc, has to be worrying. Please keep us up to date and let us know if you need advice, etc. -
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Upvoting & Downvoting
by Faded inis it possible for us to change our like or dislike once cast?
i have accidentally hit the dislike button by mistake more than once.
and then today, i completely agreed with someones first few sentences of a post.
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Is it possible for us to change our like or dislike once cast? I have accidentally hit the dislike button by mistake more than once. And then today, I completely agreed with someones first few sentences of a post. I hit the like button as I kept reading and then realised the last bit was crazy. But I can't change it.
I realize likes really don't mean anything & are not important. But some people take them seriously.
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JWs drank suspicious tea and got naked and kidnapped people
by yalbmert99 inwell, this is awkward !
these are jehovah's witnesses...lol.
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/naked-suspects-in-nisku-kidnapping-may-have-consumed-hallucinogenic-tea-1.3671452.
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Faded
So do you see the kidnapped people getting df'd for talking to the police and accusing their brothers of a crime?
If this was a molestation case or a financial dispute, the elders would be all over them for taking their brother to court. I could see them "leaning" on the victims to not cooperate with the investigation & try to get the charges dropped.
Or maybe that rule doesn't apply to kidnapping.
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JWs drank suspicious tea and got naked and kidnapped people
by yalbmert99 inwell, this is awkward !
these are jehovah's witnesses...lol.
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/naked-suspects-in-nisku-kidnapping-may-have-consumed-hallucinogenic-tea-1.3671452.
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Faded
This story has been hilarious.
Day 1: 5 people arrested for dangerous driving and a host of other infractions. Turns out all 5 people spill out of the car naked as the day they were born. In -20 degree temperatures!
Day 2: These said naked people are also arrested for kidnapping & stealing a car. Owner found locked in trunk.
Day 3: Relative of the arrested claims they consumed hallucinogenic tea and didn't know what they were doing. Everyone asks where they can get this tea.
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What would you do for next November 5?
by Faded ini think everything has to start somewhere, and you can see the passion and commitment from those loyal 50 that showed up in warwick yesterday.
the event was not very well organized but you could see the passion & dedication from most of them.
and i think they at least touched a couple of people at the kh yesterday.. having an annual day of action actually inspires me.
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Faded
This is way over and above the topic of November 5, but if there was a way to unite the ex JW factions and create a universal front, there could be hundreds of activists working in cities all over the world. Or one mega event.
If you had 2 or 3 major players organizing it, with a solid event organizer, the event could have 10x as many people there next time.
People such as Barbara Anderson, James Penton, John Cedars (yes even him - he's articulate and thought provoking even if people question his motives), Lee Elder, Susan Gaskins, etc. And also involve the VAA, Mike & Kim and other "unusual ones". Say what you want about them, but they do know how to reach people. No six screens though as he didn't bring his buddy Johnny the Bethalite to the first one. ;)
I know this is a pipe dream because there is so much infighting within some of these people, but can you just imagine what they could accomplish if they were united?